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Post by wild-parrot on Mar 26, 2003 17:11:25 GMT -5
If your turtle is sick, need a question answered quick, go to these other forums as this one isn't capable of answering questions quickly or correctly. As in the moderators own words Quote: To be honest, Turtle Forum does have many qualified people and source which we here at GTT lack. So does other forums. Here is other forums pepito.conforums.com/www.turtletimes.com/www.turtleforum.com/Let the people know about all the forums and not just the one you like.
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Post by wild-parrot on Mar 26, 2003 18:16:13 GMT -5
I decided to shut up but your post really got to me. Your post is worst that Dana's. You are a moderator. I could see it if you were just a member but you are supposed to be impartial. Instead you agree with her. You say the people who post here are unqualified to answer questions. You slap them in the face saying that. If it was an honest post worrying about the health of the turtles, maybe suggest to go to other forums, not just one. Or maybe even visit and help out and answer questions too. But it was poaching for her forum and you agreed. So if ATP has herp doctors, are they going to come to my house to give my turtle a checkup. EVERY forum has someone on them that is excellent with turtles. So, now I have had my say. You can delete this post. Because if you answer back, you will just show how impartial you are.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2003 18:48:46 GMT -5
I decided to shut up but your post really got to me. Your post is worst that Dana's. You are a moderator. I could see it if you were just a member but you are supposed to be impartial. Instead you agree with her. You say the people who post here are unqualified to answer questions. You slap them in the face saying that. If it was an honest post worrying about the health of the turtles, maybe suggest to go to other forums, not just one. Or maybe even visit and help out and answer questions too. But it was poaching for her forum and you agreed. So if ATP has herp doctors, are they going to come to my house to give my turtle a checkup. EVERY forum has someone on them that is excellent with turtles. So, now I have had my say. You can delete this post. Because if you answer back, you will just show how impartial you are. I agree with what you say. Basically, what Dana said was "Your forum SUCKS so come to ours cause its better".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2003 18:58:54 GMT -5
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Post by Dana on Mar 26, 2003 21:40:00 GMT -5
I didn't see where you said that you locked my topic, Bluewater... I wrote and posted this and now I am editing it so that you know I wasn't going above you to reply to something you wanted locked in another forum. Wow, I really did not mean to stir up anything negative- it was not my intention at all. Wild_Parrot- I don't know what your problem is, but I posted nothing negative about this site. I run a Photo Contest for the pages I mentioned before, and GTT was once one of the sponsors for that contest. I visit four forums- www.turtleforum.com, Kingsnake, TT, and this one. The reason I recommended the RES Oasis/ATP one is because it is the one I am most familiar with. I used to post on Kingsnake a lot, but because of their lack of moderation and the abundance of idiotic postings, I decided to leave. I'm sorry if you think my posts are spam- I was offering a source to the people at GTT becuase we were once affiliated with you all and because I have noticed that a number of key administrative people have gone MIA and some of your posts go unanswered for a period of time. Maybe you don't need immediate help, but what about those who do? I was simply saying- Hey, I've noticed this and here is a place where you can go that can pretty much guarentee quick responses. I wasn't saying your forum is crap or that your people are unintelligent. Not in the least- there are a great deal of people here that I have seen, talked to, or corresponded with on other forums and through email/instant messanger (Rauchell, Dianne, Bluewater, DG, ...) that I know are very intelligent and very experienced and competent to answer questions. DG - please show me exactly where I defame your forum. I never said anything negative about this forum- I simply said that should anyone need immediate help, we are here for you. I'm sorry that this offended people- it wasn't my attention. Thank you, Bluewater, for realizing this. Maybe you realize my true intentions becuase you know how I am outside of this single post. Lastly, I would be interested to hear what Jenny has to say about this- if she is offended and would like me to leave the forum, I will... We've had our differences in the past, but she is a great person and our sites and GTT have always tried to support each other.
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Post by BlueWater on Mar 26, 2003 22:01:29 GMT -5
Well, as moderator here, I perform my duties to try to cater to members here. I will delete the other thread. Sorry you feel that way. But my post was based on what "I know". I didn't want to share this with anyone here as I have been trying to keep this forum in a positive manner from preventing spam, getting rid of bogus threads etc...
But anyone here knows I've been here for a few years even before this BB came about, and I was blunt about my posts, and how I personally hate spam.
So I'll be blunt here.
-The administrator doesn't even answer our emails or come to these forums anymore. Even me as global moderator, I get no responces.
-Rumor has it this site is going to shut down in the near future anyway.
-People don't even want to give personal suggestions on how to keep this forum more active and better over to keep the community growing. Hardly anyone responded. Even you parrot. I got 3 replies. And one of the people I even recommended a member who requsted a duty as a moderator to help keep activity more here. No responce
-So when I get all these private messages and emails with suggestions/requests/ideas/questions regarding turtles... and the person above me doesn't even respond, who do I tell the rest of the community?
Where does that leave me? It makes me think no one really cares. Except Darren & Tony who put in their $00.02
*But this whole time, I've ignored all that and just pretended like nothing is wrong.
Im sorry you're angry parrot, but you seem to only look at this from one POV. Yours. I am not going to argue with you since you only quoted one sentence but left out the important one "we should not block off people's doors willing to help."
Perhaps if I told you this forum was going to close down... Your reply would not be so defensive. You didn't have to attack me and post an immature offensive because of it. Yet you assume I would delete it because it was directed at me. But this forum does let you keep your freedom of speech and since you are a member, I respect that and that I frankly don't care if people remark at me directly. Especially with immature angry posts.
I respect the fact that you are true to this forum, and I am sure everyone likes that patriotism as well. It doesn't mean we should attack others though.
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But do keep in mind I try to keep this forum positive for all the locals here. If I am even failing at that, then there is no point for me to continue as a mod.
I've said too much here already. But just remember when other people post in the future, that it isn't always an attack. And maybe they might know something about what is going on with this forum which you don't.
There's seems to be a vote of no confidence on me. There are other people here who I am sure are willing and can do this job better than me. So, I guess the only thing for me to do is resign as Global Moderator.
Good luck to the forum & everyone here.[/shadow]
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Post by BlueWater on Mar 26, 2003 22:09:48 GMT -5
Dana,
I am posting your apology here... It didn't offend me at all and I didn't really need it, but I think the members here should see it _____________________ Hi Blue Water-
I just wanted to personally apologize to you (outside of the forum so that you don't become any more stigmatized) for my posting. I was sincere in offering a second place only in cases where people needed immediate assistance. I offered the Turtle Forum only because there is always someone around on it and it is the one I am most familiar with... I do visit all four forums, and perhaps it was in bad taste not to offer them all up. I also wanted to thank you for trying to re-explain my true attentions - I think you realize what they were because you know me from email and other forums.
I didn't want to cause trouble - I am not one to recruit people to our forum... I welcome anyone who joins, but I'm not about tearing people away from their 'home'. I understand their anger if that is how I came across.
I wrote that reply before realizing the other topic was locked and I apologize if you feel I may have went above you in doing so. Not my intentions again...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2003 22:29:47 GMT -5
Dana, I'm not going to start a flame war, but to myself and others, it really did come out that way. So we'll agree to disagree. fin
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Post by Dana on Mar 26, 2003 23:27:40 GMT -5
Hi DG- That's fair enough Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and it is civil to agree to disagree- Hey! Now we agree on something --Dana
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Post by wild-parrot on Mar 27, 2003 1:58:57 GMT -5
Dana, I can see why you posted what you did. I just felt that you should have given all the forums and not just one. It wouldn't of bothered me if you had. And I never said that you said negative things about this forum. I apologize if you took it that way. Like DG said So we'll agree to disagree. fin
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Post by tony on Mar 28, 2003 0:44:35 GMT -5
whoa whoa whoa, everyone please stop and explain to me what has happened, ive been in and out of the hospital and not able to be on the comp. for some time and missed out.
INFORM ME PLEASE!!
--tony--
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2003 8:58:58 GMT -5
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Post by happy_slider on Mar 30, 2003 12:53:55 GMT -5
I would hate to see Gorda's close down! (sorry for the semi-randomness)
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Post by Marine on May 22, 2003 11:52:22 GMT -5
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Post by csurfleet on Jun 4, 2003 11:21:18 GMT -5
Sod it, BlueWater, if you want help moderating, I can give it a go. I have been helped by this place so many times, I hae a duty to help out in any way I can
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